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you're listening to irn the inception

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to come of age

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investigations council presents epic

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come join us as we hit her and

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experience the great mysteries of the

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of it's

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hello and welcome to epic voyages radio

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i'm dr rita louise your host for this

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week

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and today we have a very special

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presentation we're going to be talking

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to jim mars about his new book

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our culted history but before we bring

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jim on i just want to

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say hi to everyone here on the inception

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radio network and remind you that you

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can listen to my show

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just energy radio every thursday evening

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from

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8 to 10 p.m eastern standard time

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and um they didn't send me any messages

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for ken

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and so i'm just going to go ahead

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and introduce jim and get them on

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because i have a million questions

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so best-selling author and legendary

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conspiracy researcher jim mars

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has investigated the recent financial

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crisis the jfk assassination and the

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socialist takeover of america now

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takes on the biggest subject the history

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of mankind

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offering mind-blowing information that

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will radically alter the way we think

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about the world and our place in it

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mars goes beyond the revelations of his

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classic

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alien agenda interweaving science and

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hyphenated archaeo

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dash logical find with provocative

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speculation to show how human

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civilization

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may have originated with non-humans who

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and may still be here today

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so from www.jimmars.com

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jim mars hey jim how are you hey doc

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it's great to be with you

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it is so good to be with you too i'm so

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happy you finally got your book done

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every time i emailed you about coming on

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my show you were like

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busy writing busy writing

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well when you have a chance to go

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through this one you're going to realize

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that it took a

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ton of research oh i have no doubt

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um but today we're going to be talking

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about your book

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our cult history and i have to tell you

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ken approached me with doing this

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interview i thought we were going to be

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talking about like

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psychic phenomena and ghosts and

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yeah let me let me get some stuff yeah

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let me get something straight real quick

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uh in in my new book our cultured

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history you're not going to read

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anything about what we normally think of

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there's no devil worship no witches no

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astronomical sense in that like when the

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uh eclipses the sun that's called an

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occultation it occults the sun which

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it hides or blocks or masks the sun

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that has been kept from us and hidden

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but i was really excited but this is a

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so you know i'm kind of like going man

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all right we'll go with this um

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but it involves all that too uh

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ufos psychic ability it's all part of

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the same energetic

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universe that we all live in and when i

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say all i'm not just talking about us

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as i'm sure you're well aware i am

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antiquity it seems as if there are a lot

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of anomalies that that we've that we

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that's a scientific term for what the

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or occulted history if you had to

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word sorry uh some of these strange

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small gold uh ornaments i guess you

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know and then we have an axe

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primitive axe but nevertheless

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an axe and was found embedded inside a

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that was uh carbon dated back to almost

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clean evolutionary history that we've

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several thousand years so now we're back

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about the the sumerian god king

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offspring of a human mother and a

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they go looking for uh the gods

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immortality how to live a lot longer

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geologists tell us and i can verify this

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around the sphinx and even some on the

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is very clear evidence of vertical water

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so in other words those two structures

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for many years okay and yet the same

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that there has not been any significant

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were built more than 10 000 years ago

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robert shock on the show and we had this

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and and the thought occurred to me you

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know because i i think sometimes

290
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that why would a group build a structure

291
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that was below surface level that was

292
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going to get filled up with sand every

293
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time the wind blew

294
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right you'd think they'd at least put a

295
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door on it

296
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uh but you know but the scholars there's

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really smart people

298
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don't like you know they don't like

299
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think with common sense sometimes

300
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no they don't and sometimes they think

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with an agenda

302
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and there's a reason for this and i

303
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actually covered this

304
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in my book our cultured history how

305
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and who they that science and

306
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conventional wisdom

307
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has blocked any investigation into all

308
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of this

309
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well we're going to get into that we're

310
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going to get into that we're kind of

311
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warming up

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the audience right right and

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uh yeah and i was also amazed when i

314
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visited in the great pyramid

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uh all over egypt when you go to the

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ancient

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egyptian places the temples and the

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tombs and valley of the kings every

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square inch is filled with hieroglyphics

320
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because the egyptians like the romans

321
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like the nazis

322
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they wrote everything down they kept

323
00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:03,920
pretty good record on everything going

324
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on

325
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and yet you get to the great pyramid and

326
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there's nothing in there

327
00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:12,959
it was not a tune okay

328
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it was something else and i tend to

329
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believe the

330
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british scientist uh who

331
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said it was probably a energy generator

332
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and yeah yeah christopher dunn

333
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and that leads to the idea that if that

334
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was a generator and maybe a

335
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uh energy boosting point

336
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and transmitter where did they transmit

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it and i submit that

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it was transmitted to other pyramidal

339
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transmitters all around the world

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because they have found

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pyramids and we know that the pyramids

342
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in central south america

343
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north america in the mississippi river

344
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valley

345
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ancient indian mounds in the shapes of

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pyramids

347
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there is a giant pyramid reported over

348
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in eastern europe

349
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in bosnia there are pyramids in china

350
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and they have found pyramids under the

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ocean

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off okinawa and other places

353
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and i i believe that that goes back to

354
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a previously unknown civilization that

355
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was pretty highly technological

356
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that we only know about just through

357
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vague

358
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legends and myths such as the story of

359
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atlantis

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or moo and i think and of course

361
00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,040
everybody argues about well where was

362
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atlantis and one school of thought is it

363
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was in the middle a big island the

364
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middle of the atlantic another says no

365
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:43,839
it was uh antarctica before the pole

366
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shifted and antarctica went under ice

367
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and now another theory is it was in the

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south

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china sea another one says no it was the

370
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island of santorini it was

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you know and another and so another the

372
00:16:02,870 --> 00:15:59,839
theory is it was in the mediterranean

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and uh dr louise i think

374
00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:05,759
they were all correct they're all right

375
00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:08,160
this is just another example of the old

376
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,240
story of the blind men and the elephant

377
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:12,000
they've all got a piece of it but they

378
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:13,839
haven't quite put it all together

379
00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:15,279
to see the big picture in the big

380
00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:18,560
picture is there was a worldwide highly

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technological civilization

382
00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:24,000
long before i recorded history

383
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,360
okay so what happened to it okay but i

384
00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:29,279
have one more question before we go

385
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there

386
00:16:34,629 --> 00:16:33,360
one more question because i was watching

387
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:34,639
your presentation

388
00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:39,440
um that when you're at epic voyages

389
00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:42,720
voyagers and you talked about um

390
00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,839
how the moon and mars and particularly

391
00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:47,440
the moon and i wrote the name now and

392
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:48,800
then i lost the paper

393
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:52,240
the moon of jupiter might be hollow

394
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:00,550
well for one thing let's take our own

395
00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:05,429
when the uh one of the apollo missions

396
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:08,000
dropped their lunar lander back onto the

397
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:12,079
uh moon surface uh seismic equipment

398
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,360
picked up vibrations and and nasa

399
00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:16,559
officials

400
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:19,120
uh told the news media that the moon

401
00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:19,679
rang

402
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:23,439
like a bell for hours maybe up to six

403
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,799
eight hours now that indicates it's

404
00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:28,400
hollow

405
00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:31,440
and we do know for sure that uh the

406
00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:34,559
more dense material is on the outside of

407
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:35,840
the moon

408
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:38,160
uh and yet why don't we know more about

409
00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:40,559
this well because carl sagan

410
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:42,640
who early in his career along with some

411
00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:44,080
russian scientists

412
00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:46,400
were claiming that perhaps the moon of

413
00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:47,440
mars

414
00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:50,960
uh phobos was actually a

415
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:54,720
hollow object but as he pointed out

416
00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,000
a hollow object cannot be a natural

417
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,039
object and since uh you know

418
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,600
we're nobody wants to admit that we may

419
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:04,960
not be alone

420
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:07,679
in the cosmos at least no one in

421
00:18:11,909 --> 00:18:08,799
authority

422
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,919
then we just won't talk about that well

423
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:13,360
you know what was interesting

424
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:16,799
i watched that part especially the

425
00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,799
the moon around jupiter all right hang

426
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:20,400
on

427
00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:23,679
yeah and it had that big seam you know

428
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:25,440
where it looked like they took you know

429
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:27,520
two halves of a ball and just stuck it

430
00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:28,400
together

431
00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:31,440
really crappy yeah yeah it looks like a

432
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:33,440
walnut or something you know but

433
00:18:37,510 --> 00:18:35,120
i think you know what it reminds me of

434
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,520
is when i see the close-up pictures

435
00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,600
and what people what we're talking about

436
00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:41,600
here is the moon of jupiter

437
00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:44,559
and it's got a like a mountain range

438
00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:46,480
which we've all seen a mountain range

439
00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,160
but i bet you've never seen one that

440
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:50,720
goes strictly around the equator of a

441
00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:53,200
of a heavenly body and it just goes

442
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:54,160
right around

443
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:56,720
this entire moon and it reminds me

444
00:19:01,669 --> 00:18:57,600
nothing

445
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:01,679
less than the wall on king kong island

446
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:04,880
you know it's like this big structure

447
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,919
there

448
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:07,679
and it's hard to imagine that something

449
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:08,960
like that just occurs

450
00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:12,880
naturally in fact we get right to it

451
00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:15,919
uh isaac asimov the famous scientist and

452
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:16,880
writer

453
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,240
uh talking about our own moon

454
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:22,080
said well you know it shouldn't be where

455
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:23,360
it is

456
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:30,720
uh circular logic going on which is

457
00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:33,760
uh how did the moon get there well

458
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,679
we i was taught early on that the moon

459
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:37,360
had broken away from the earth

460
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:40,080
but this was before we went there after

461
00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:41,520
we went to the moon we found out the

462
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,320
composition

463
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:45,039
of moon rocks was different than that of

464
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,559
earth rock so now we know

465
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:48,320
it didn't break away from the earth it

466
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,840
came from somewhere else

467
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,679
so picture of the earth hanging in space

468
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,919
here comes the moon flying by

469
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,679
gets caught in the gravitational field

470
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:57,200
of the earth

471
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:59,360
and gets pulled back okay and it goes

472
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:01,039
past the earth again gets caught in the

473
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,240
gravitational field

474
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:04,559
it's pulled back again and this goes on

475
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:06,000
for a million years or however

476
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:09,440
long and as a result you should have

477
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:12,880
an elliptical orbit around the earth

478
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,360
probably wobbly okay especially since we

479
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:17,120
know the center of gravity

480
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:20,000
of the moon is like two miles from its

481
00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:20,400
uh

482
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:23,600
absolute center well if you take a ball

483
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:26,400
and the center the ball is off center

484
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:28,000
and you try to roll it on the floor it's

485
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:28,720
not going to roll

486
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,320
straight line it's going to wobble all

487
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:32,400
over the place so the moon should be in

488
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:32,840
the

489
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:36,000
elliptical wobbly orbit but

490
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,400
no it's in a near perfect circular orbit

491
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:43,760
right around the equator of the earth

492
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:46,080
with only a slight perturbation that it

493
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:47,760
just happens to match

494
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:49,919
the same perturbation in the earth's

495
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,799
orbit

496
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:52,880
and it's stationary one side's always

497
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:54,240
facing the earth

498
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:57,280
and it's just the proper distance from

499
00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:58,240
the earth

500
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:01,600
so that when there is a an eclipse

501
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,720
with the sun it perfectly covers just

502
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:06,960
the corona of the sun

503
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,320
uh how's it possible well it's not

504
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:12,559
but our in our circular logic though we

505
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:13,919
say well

506
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:17,200
um we know we did the only way that

507
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,320
could happen

508
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,640
is for some intelligence to have parked

509
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:21,679
it there

510
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,760
but we know that the moon's been there

511
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:24,799
as far back as

512
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,159
human history uh records ago so and we

513
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:30,320
know so we know we didn't do it

514
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:31,840
and of course we all know there's no

515
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:33,919
such thing as aliens

516
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:38,159
so again we just won't talk about this

517
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,000
see if it was my kids asking i would

518
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:42,400
just say god made it that way

519
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:46,000
yeah exactly but but what was

520
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:48,240
interesting to me when i saw that image

521
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,919
with the scene and you talking about

522
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:51,120
that whole thing

523
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,960
one of the things that they talk about

524
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:54,240
in mythology is

525
00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:57,360
about this group of progenitor gods

526
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:01,120
that that arrive in the cosmic egg

527
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:05,120
and i'm like hmm sounds kind of

528
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,400
cosmic egg like you know because i was

529
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:10,000
showing that picture to my husband he

530
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:11,600
was like yeah yeah yeah i go yeah but

531
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,120
think cosmic egg

532
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,880
and you can see this little light bulb

533
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:16,159
go oh

534
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,520
so yes and and in fact just think about

535
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:21,120
it if we wanted to build a

536
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,480
giant craft to carry a lot of people

537
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:26,799
uh through space just think how much

538
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,120
time and effort would it would take

539
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:32,159
to manufacture and fabricate some

540
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:35,919
gigantic edifice artifact out in space

541
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:37,200
somewhere

542
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,360
when you could take a an asteroid

543
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:44,559
and uh using drilling equipment

544
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:48,000
explosives maybe or better yet

545
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:51,440
melting you know laser type

546
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:54,799
equipment and you hollow it out and

547
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,080
you've got a ready-made uh

548
00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:00,320
superstructure you got a ready-made

549
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:02,080
conveyance all you got to do is get it

550
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:03,200
propelled

551
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:05,039
some way and just send it on its way

552
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:06,480
make sure you got plenty of air and

553
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,360
water and

554
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:09,200
everything inside and you can transport

555
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:10,640
people all around the

556
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:13,760
universe in fact what is known a fact is

557
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:14,080
that

558
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,720
on one side of the moon there's a bulge

559
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:17,760
and there's just

560
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:20,640
heavier materials there on this one side

561
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,520
of the moon

562
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:24,000
and and i always think of it is the bugs

563
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,360
on the windshield

564
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,280
he says this thing travels through space

565
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:29,280
it's picking up debris and

566
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:33,039
dust and all kinds of stuff right

567
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:35,679
that accounts for the bulge on the moon

568
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,159
well

569
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:38,640
but it's so big that there could be

570
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,360
hydroponic gardens and some kind of

571
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,360
artificial sunlight or

572
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,679
whatever they need i mean if it's if

573
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,440
it's as big as a moon

574
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,039
it's not like you're trying to stick

575
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,559
your apartment in there

576
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:53,039
i mean there's a lot of room that's

577
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:53,679
right

578
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,279
like a little inner earth

579
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,919
type thing and what's interesting is is

580
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:01,600
that one time i had the occasion to have

581
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,080
a conversation with dr edgar mitchell

582
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,200
the sixth astronaut to walk on the moon

583
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:09,360
and i just asked him i said uh dr

584
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,400
mitchell uh

585
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:12,159
what do you think about the i did the

586
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,440
moon's hollow

587
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,200
and he kind of laughed he said no no the

588
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,960
moon's not hollow

589
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,720
and then he went on though to say that

590
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,559
well however we do

591
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,240
he he mentioned same thing i mentioned

592
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:24,400
which is the more dense materials on the

593
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,360
outside

594
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,200
and he says we we do believe that

595
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:29,440
perhaps there are giant caverns

596
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,000
within the moon and of course i'm here's

597
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:34,159
a great hero of space i didn't want to

598
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:35,440
get in his face but

599
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:38,400
i'm thinking hey you know giant caverns

600
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,000
in the moon holla moon what's the

601
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:41,840
difference

602
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:46,400
got a lot of empty space in there

603
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,840
all right so i'm going to kind of switch

604
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,760
gears and get to the good stuff or to me

605
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:50,640
the good stuff

606
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,679
so i'm going to make this statement i

607
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,159
will concede for myself and my listeners

608
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,240
to the fact that ets were here

609
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:01,360
on earth in our past so the question

610
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:03,279
i'm going to ask and where i want to

611
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:04,480
move forward from

612
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,269
well you know what that's a good

613
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,919
question i think i can answer that

614
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,520
because if we assume

615
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,600
that these ancient stories from all over

616
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:18,640
the world

617
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,080
the aborigines in uh australia

618
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:24,640
gogong tribe in africa the ancient

619
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:26,400
chinese levels and

620
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,159
legends the uh vedas from uh

621
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:33,279
india uh all over the world

622
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,640
uh is the same story uh the mayans

623
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,640
aztecs they all said the gods came from

624
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:40,080
the sky

625
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,840
and taught himself so let's assume just

626
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,200
for the sake of argument

627
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,960
that they were telling us the truth is

628
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:47,120
they knew it and there were these

629
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,600
ancient astronauts these

630
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:50,960
extraterrestrials on the earth

631
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:54,480
way back uh before our recorded history

632
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,080
but certainly before western

633
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:58,080
civilization finally

634
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,840
evolved along okay so the question is as

635
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,720
you said

636
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,960
are they still here or did they all

637
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:05,919
leave

638
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,400
okay how do we answer you look at

639
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:10,320
history the history that we do

640
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:14,080
know okay if as we are taught

641
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,400
human history has simply been one slow

642
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,240
evolutionary climb

643
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,880
from cave dwellers to hunter-gatherers

644
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:22,480
to

645
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:26,000
cities city-states nations empires

646
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:27,360
then there should be nothing on the

647
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:29,440
record except just that

648
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:32,880
slow movement upward of civilization

649
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,440
but it's not really what we find if you

650
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,279
look at history closely

651
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,520
you can go back to the bible hear about

652
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,000
ezekiel talking about the fiery wheel

653
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:44,880
that flies through the sky lands picks

654
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:45,440
him up

655
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:47,919
takes him to a city in the mountains

656
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:48,720
okay

657
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,440
uh he you can take the sumerian accounts

658
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,720
of the anunnaki

659
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,559
who arrived from a world they called

660
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,400
nibiru

661
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,400
you know came through the great bracelet

662
00:27:03,430 --> 00:26:59,919
of the asteroid belt

663
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:03,440
landed in the persian gulf you can take

664
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:05,840
you know all of these stories and you

665
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,640
can then

666
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,279
bring it right on up to the flying uh

667
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,039
boats of the egyptians the flying

668
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:13,200
dragons of the chinese the

669
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,320
the the bayamas of the vedas

670
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:18,640
that were fly through the air and loose

671
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,120
weapons it could destroy a whole city

672
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,679
in one mighty blast and then that brings

673
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,600
up sodom and gomorrah which apparently

674
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,960
were destroyed by

675
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,720
something that certainly resembles an

676
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,559
atomic bomb

677
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,240
and then you come on up through the

678
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,320
flying shields of the romans

679
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,559
and then you get on up into the the

680
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:38,159
great airship mystery

681
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:41,840
of the 1896 1897 which was years before

682
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:43,760
the wright brothers ever flew

683
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:46,000
there was nothing man-made in the air

684
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:48,399
then you come on up to the ufo phenomena

685
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,000
which is still with us

686
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,799
uh you got cattle mutilations uh you've

687
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,000
got the abduction

688
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:57,120
issue uh you've got the crop circles

689
00:28:03,909 --> 00:27:58,880
oh wait a minute did that answer your

690
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,870
well yeah i i i mean i think so but i

691
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:08,240
just want to see what you had

692
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,640
what you thought about it okay now you

693
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,320
know the question becomes well then if

694
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,159
there's some of them still here where

695
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:16,559
are they and what are they up to

696
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:19,279
well that was my next question so well

697
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,279
this is what i've done in my new book

698
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:22,720
our culture and history

699
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,799
i have tied that subject of ancient

700
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,760
astronauts

701
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,279
which is seem to be growing in

702
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,360
popularity as more and more people

703
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:34,080
become not only aware of this issue but

704
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,799
of the

705
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:36,799
factual matters the artifacts the

706
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:37,840
anomalies

707
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:40,880
shall we say that support that

708
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,840
and i have tied it with another issue

709
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:45,679
which a lot of people are well aware of

710
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:46,720
and are very interested

711
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:50,080
in which is the new world order

712
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,600
or the illuminati or the one percent as

713
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:56,399
the occupy movement people say

714
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:58,559
in other words a small handful of

715
00:29:03,110 --> 00:28:59,760
individuals

716
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:03,120
who are beyond wealthy

717
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:06,559
and powerful and who are obviously

718
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:10,480
trying to gain control economically

719
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:13,840
politically and socially uh over

720
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:19,830
there was a little video thing that

721
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,480
showed

722
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,640
like wealth distribution and like what

723
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,960
people think the wealth distribution is

724
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:27,279
and what the ideal wealth distribution

725
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,919
was

726
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,919
and then the reality of the wealth

727
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,760
distribution and i don't remember

728
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,000
exactly what it it said but it was it

729
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:35,919
was something to the effect of

730
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,559
that one percent that you know those

731
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:40,480
those three people

732
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:43,679
control like 90 of the money on the

733
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:44,559
planet

734
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,080
and it was just overwhelming um

735
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,399
because when i looked on the chart we

736
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,159
kind of didn't even have a little bar on

737
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:54,000
the bar graph anymore

738
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:56,000
we're barely there well this was all

739
00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:58,480
confirmed by the way and i cover this

740
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:02,240
in my book our cultured history in 2011

741
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,240
there was a study by the swiss federal

742
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:05,840
institute of technology

743
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,120
and they made a study of 43 000

744
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:11,919
multinational corporations and found

745
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:14,320
that they were all controlled by

746
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,159
a mere 1 318 companies that with

747
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:20,000
interlocking ownership and these

748
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,279
companies in turn

749
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:24,480
were controlled by only 147

750
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,240
firms with interlocking uh con ownership

751
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,880
and directorates which in turn were

752
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:32,799
pretty much under control of about

753
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:36,559
20 institutions most of them banks

754
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:40,399
and that this pyramidal

755
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:43,520
shape of power controlled more than

756
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,799
60 percent of global revenues

757
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,279
they've just about got the whole world

758
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,200
and what's really amazing is is they

759
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:52,960
pointed out in this study

760
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:56,000
that they did not analyze

761
00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:59,440
family social or business relationships

762
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,080
of the owners and stockholders

763
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:04,960
and what i'm talking about here is that

764
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:05,679
if uh

765
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,919
let's say i own uh five percent

766
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,080
of a corporation well most people say

767
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:14,000
well you got to have 51 percent

768
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,640
ownership

769
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:17,039
you can't control it but wait a minute

770
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:18,159
what if i own

771
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:20,799
five percent of this corporation and my

772
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:21,519
wife

773
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:24,000
owns another five percent so

774
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:24,960
collectively

775
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:27,679
we own ten percent and no other

776
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:28,640
stockholder

777
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,320
owns more than six percent we

778
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,600
control the corporation and that's how

779
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:37,679
you this small group of people

780
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:40,720
can control everything plus they control

781
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:43,600
through economic entities that no one

782
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:44,000
has

783
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:47,279
even really ever heard of for example

784
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:48,720
i'll bet you've never heard of the

785
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:51,919
exchange stabilization fund

786
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:55,600
this was created during the depression

787
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:59,200
and it is a offshoot of the treasury

788
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:00,080
department

789
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:03,440
but it is not subject to any u.s laws

790
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:06,480
or to the u.s constitution and

791
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:13,190
all kinds of things between the banks

792
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,880
major banks of the world

793
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,360
they also control the federal this this

794
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:18,880
esf

795
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,200
controls the federal reserve bank of new

796
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,880
york which if you know anything about

797
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:24,399
the federal reserve system

798
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,440
pretty well dominates and sets the pace

799
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,679
for the entire federal reserve system

800
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,360
they've also handled all the

801
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:32,399
government's black

802
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,000
budgets such as the cia the nsa the

803
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,080
money the huge millions and trillions

804
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:39,600
that they want off the books

805
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:40,880
is handled through the exchange

806
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:43,360
stabilization fund they also were the

807
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,279
creators of the international

808
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:48,480
monetary fund in the world bank those

809
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:51,519
incredible outfits that we hear so much

810
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,240
about

811
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,080
and in fact there are those who have

812
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,880
claimed that the esf has been directly

813
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,960
involved in virtually every major u.s

814
00:33:03,029 --> 00:32:59,919
scandal

815
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,039
since its creation in 1934 to include

816
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:05,440
cia drug trafficking the iran contra

817
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,159
scandal

818
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,200
and even the jfk assassination

819
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:12,159
another such entity is the financial

820
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,679
stability board

821
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,760
this was something that was signed up to

822
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:17,360
by president obama

823
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,960
in 2006 uh at the g20

824
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:23,039
meeting with the g20 that's simply the

825
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:25,919
20 biggest industrial nations

826
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:28,480
and the g20 is when all of their central

827
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,120
bankers

828
00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:32,159
get together all right and they at that

829
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:32,960
time

830
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:35,600
they took a component of the old bank

831
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,279
for international settlements

832
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,760
which if you've read my book the rise of

833
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:41,120
the fourth reich

834
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:44,559
was a nazi dominated bank and created

835
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,039
before

836
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,840
world war ii to keep the money safe for

837
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:49,279
the big boys

838
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,519
and they had the financial stability

839
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,480
forum and then in 2006 they changed the

840
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:58,960
name to the financial stability

841
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:01,840
board and obama signed the united states

842
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:02,480
up

843
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,679
and uh the whole idea was to standardize

844
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:07,360
economic policies

845
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,560
among these g20 nations and so now

846
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,639
the federal the financial stability

847
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,079
board of which no one has

848
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,639
probably ever even heard of it dictates

849
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,960
economic policy to our federal reserve

850
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:20,240
system which is our

851
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,720
central bank the secretary of treasury

852
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,639
and other policy groups

853
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:27,280
so in other words our entire economy now

854
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,240
thanks to

855
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:30,159
the financial stability board is under

856
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:32,720
the control of this nazi bank

857
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:35,200
which is controlled by the international

858
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,000
bankers

859
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,200
so the occupy movement pretty well had

860
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,119
figured out what was really going on

861
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:44,000
it's exactly what you were talking about

862
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:44,720
they control

863
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:47,359
everything but just a small sliver of

864
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:48,639
the world's economy

865
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,679
and who are they this is what we need to

866
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:53,040
start working on

867
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,280
well i want to know when did all of this

868
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,639
start i mean most of the stuff you're

869
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:57,599
talking about

870
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:01,280
is you know from the last century but if

871
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,040
the et's have been here this whole time

872
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,800
you know were they trying to exert

873
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:08,480
control over the planet

874
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:12,640
before oh yes let me ask you this

875
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,160
uh jesus the prince of peace

876
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,160
what was the one group that he actually

877
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,240
got violent with

878
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:23,040
the money changers and where were they

879
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,079
were they in a bank

880
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,280
no they were in the temple okay so

881
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,240
yes there's some folks that have been

882
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:31,760
trying to gain control

883
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:34,640
over the whole human race and have been

884
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:37,040
as far back as recorded history

885
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:41,760
and they have been using uh two primary

886
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,040
methods of control the earliest one

887
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,440
uh and one that is still pretty powerful

888
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:49,359
but his is waning in

889
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:53,119
in strength is uh religion uh i am your

890
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:53,760
god

891
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,560
do what i tell you okay now think about

892
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,280
it if you went back in a time machine

893
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,960
fairly recently maybe just a hundred

894
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:03,040
years ago okay say uh

895
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:07,040
1912 okay and you had a handheld color

896
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,839
tv

897
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:10,160
set which we have you go down a radio

898
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,760
shack buy one

899
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,359
and you showed that somebody and it was

900
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,680
working they're gonna think you know

901
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:17,200
magic

902
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,400
and they're gonna or they're gonna think

903
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,960
you gotta you know you got technology

904
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:22,400
they never heard of so

905
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:23,760
and you tell them you're from god

906
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,320
they're liable to believe you

907
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:29,200
okay so we started off religion okay

908
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,320
we're your gods

909
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,839
but then they didn't really want to mess

910
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:33,760
with the dirty old primitive humans

911
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:36,960
so they created priesthood uh there's

912
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,079
always someone who

913
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:40,000
comes along and says well i represent

914
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:41,760
god and he tells me

915
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,760
to tell you here's how you do things

916
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:45,280
here's how you live

917
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:48,400
and by the way give me your tithe uh

918
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:51,760
okay well going back to about the

919
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:56,079
and that held up for for centuries

920
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:57,920
and during the middle ages it was the

921
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,920
roman church that ruled everything they

922
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:01,760
loaned money to the royal families of

923
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,560
europe

924
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:04,480
and they controlled the even the

925
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,839
peasant's life

926
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,240
through the priesthood but then with the

927
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:10,320
age of enlightenment and the advent of

928
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:11,520
the

929
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:14,560
printing press more and more people got

930
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,359
to reading

931
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:16,800
and they realized that everything the

932
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:19,599
church said wasn't exactly true

933
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:22,160
and so religion started to wane so they

934
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:23,839
came up with their next

935
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:27,440
method of control which is economics

936
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:30,400
money it's the old golden rule whoever

937
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,440
has the gold

938
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:33,920
makes the rules and that's where we are

939
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:34,960
today largely

940
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:38,000
the world today is largely run well

941
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,680
but you can see actually it's run by

942
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,320
both in in the western enlightened

943
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,720
so-called enlightened countries uh we're

944
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:45,680
dominated

945
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:48,640
by the people who control the economy uh

946
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:50,320
that boom bust you know

947
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,320
jobs no jobs um and you're you're stuck

948
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:57,440
uh because it's a debt economy in other

949
00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:59,440
words if this was just a

950
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,640
a barter system uh you know

951
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:05,119
if you wanted me to write something for

952
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:06,880
you i'd say well what can you do for me

953
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,839
and you'd say well

954
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,520
how about if i get you as a guest on

955
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,680
that program and you can publicize your

956
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:13,680
books and i go okay boy that'd be great

957
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,520
say so you were press release written

958
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:17,200
okay i'll write it for you and you put

959
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,079
it on there

960
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,079
they're they're both of us are happy

961
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,839
both of us got what we wanted

962
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,000
and no one else has anything to say

963
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,839
about it but that's not where we're in

964
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,520
we're in a debt economy

965
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:30,000
with this paper that we pass around that

966
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,599
we have to pay interest on

967
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,320
even though it's not backed by anything

968
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,320
it's a real ponzi scheme it's

969
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:39,119
it's it's a swindle and yet nobody can

970
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,440
quite

971
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:41,920
see it because we were brought up this

972
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,640
way it's been that way all along

973
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,000
and by the way i'll take that

974
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:47,920
opportunity to mention i hope

975
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,119
people now understand why slavery

976
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,160
lasted so long okay it wasn't that

977
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,320
people sat down and consciously thought

978
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:57,920
well i'm just going to keep these people

979
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:00,560
down i'm just going to keep these slaves

980
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,000
but i'm going to be mean they just

981
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:06,320
didn't think about it because that was

982
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,599
the status quo

983
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,920
that was the way things work that was

984
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,520
the way it worked when they were born

985
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,200
and when they were kids and teenagers

986
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,880
and growing up and that's why it was

987
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:16,800
always going to be as far as they knew

988
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:19,920
and we're in the same situation

989
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:23,200
with debt slavery most of people

990
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:25,280
listening to my voice

991
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,920
you're just happy in this economic times

992
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,440
to have a job

993
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,839
and so even though you may hate your job

994
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:33,520
and maybe you'd like to do something

995
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,079
else

996
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:36,240
but you're not free you can't just pack

997
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,119
up move

998
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,960
go somewhere else do something else

999
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:41,280
because you got bills coming in

1000
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,200
every month it's got to be met so you're

1001
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,240
what do they call a wage slave so well

1002
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:50,000
it just seems like that whole thing is

1003
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,800
getting worse

1004
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:53,280
where people it used to be you work

1005
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,480
eight hours a day

1006
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,960
five days a week and i talk to more and

1007
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,280
more people that are working 10 12

1008
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,760
14 hours a day for the same amount of

1009
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:02,640
money

1010
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:06,319
exactly and and think about the people

1011
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,960
now

1012
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:09,200
who used to be working a 40-hour week

1013
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,079
and making a certain

1014
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:12,160
paycheck and now they're being cut back

1015
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:13,599
to 30 hours

1016
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,640
thanks to obamacare okay because under

1017
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:18,800
obamacare if you're an employer

1018
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,520
and you have people working under 40

1019
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:23,520
hours a week then you don't have to

1020
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,800
to pay into their health insurance well

1021
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:28,240
i think we're going to see more and more

1022
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,440
of that coming up you're going to see

1023
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,040
more and more people out at work and you

1024
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:33,040
see businesses closing down

1025
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,079
i i know i know a woman who is working

1026
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:39,200
three jobs and still can't quite meet

1027
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,400
her bills

1028
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:43,200
that that's that's that's just that's

1029
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,240
not right

1030
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:45,920
yeah i i don't really get the whole

1031
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,760
point of obamacare i think that

1032
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,280
there are going to be more and more

1033
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,680
companies that are going to do that

1034
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,599
part-time bring in two people for

1035
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:55,760
you know 20 hours a week and then you

1036
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,160
end up with no benefits at all

1037
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:00,160
and if you're only working part-time

1038
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,280
they probably will pay you

1039
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:04,000
half of the rate that they would pay

1040
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,960
somebody

1041
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,720
if they were working full-time you know

1042
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,720
like hourly rate because well you're

1043
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:10,480
only a part-time person we don't need to

1044
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,040
pay you

1045
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,520
you know forty thousand dollars a year

1046
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,880
what you know

1047
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:17,200
divided by twenty you know what i mean i

1048
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,720
know exactly what you mean because i've

1049
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:20,960
been doing that for for a long time

1050
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,160
and many years i mostly uh

1051
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:26,720
stood to my journalism and writing now

1052
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,200
but

1053
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,000
for a long time i was also doing

1054
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:32,400
advertising and public relations work

1055
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,520
and i found that i could make more money

1056
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,640
by being a consultant than i could uh

1057
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,560
being a salaried employee

1058
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,240
and the reason is when you're a salary

1059
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:44,079
employee you're expected to be a certain

1060
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:45,920
place certain times stay there

1061
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,119
certain hours and plus you have to

1062
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,160
pay for your own transportation and food

1063
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,240
and everything else and then plus

1064
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:55,760
they don't want to pay you know you have

1065
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:58,160
to they you want hospitalization and

1066
00:42:01,589 --> 00:42:00,720
retirement and all this stuff so i would

1067
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,599
get business

1068
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:04,240
as a freelance consultant by saying look

1069
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,359
i'm just a consultant

1070
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,560
i come in work on a per job basis um but

1071
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,240
i'm gonna charge you my

1072
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,280
traveling expenses and uh but you don't

1073
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:15,280
have to pay for my hospitalization you

1074
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:16,560
have to pay for

1075
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:19,119
uh you know retirement or anything else

1076
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:20,560
so they came out actually

1077
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:22,640
saving money so that's how i got a lot

1078
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:23,680
of business

1079
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,400
cool well i want to kind of change

1080
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,440
direction but

1081
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:29,359
we need to go to break i mean we're

1082
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:30,720
supposed to go to break in two minutes

1083
00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:32,800
but if we could maybe go to break

1084
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,319
now that would be a good thing

1085
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:38,400
but see i never hear the music so we're

1086
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:39,680
going to break now

1087
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,880
and when we come back we're going to

1088
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,880
continue this fascinating conversation

1089
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,800
with jim mars

1090
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,800
and talk more about his book our

1091
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,880
occulted history so we'll be back with

1092
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:50,000
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00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:28,000
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1179
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1180
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:37,920
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1181
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:40,960
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00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,079
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1183
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:44,160
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00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:45,200
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1185
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:53,109
hello and welcome back to epic voyages

1186
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,119
we're here talking to jim mars live on

1187
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,880
the inception radio network and i just

1188
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,040
want to remind you that epic voyagers

1189
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,960
has a youtube channel where you can get

1190
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:02,240
presentations

1191
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:05,599
um of jim there's a presentation of me

1192
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:08,079
dr rita there and some of the other

1193
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,200
guests that they've had

1194
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:11,280
at epic voyages here in dallas and

1195
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:12,800
actually i'll make a quick announcement

1196
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,599
next month

1197
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,040
they're having a good friend of mine

1198
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,960
dennis balthazar going to be speaking to

1199
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:18,720
the group so if you're in the dallas

1200
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:21,760
area check out the epic voyagers webpage

1201
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,280
which is i think epic epicvoyagers.com

1202
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,800
yay okay jim so here is the question

1203
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,960
that i want to ask you because you

1204
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,640
didn't talk about it in the little

1205
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,319
presentation

1206
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,839
but i'm hoping you talk about it in the

1207
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:38,480
book so one of the things that

1208
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:41,839
i have heard rumors of is that you know

1209
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:43,359
we're talking about this group of

1210
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,040
extraterrestrials that are controlling

1211
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,280
the earth

1212
00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:49,680
but usually you hear when they talk

1213
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,640
about that they don't just say

1214
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,359
extraterrestrials they get into this

1215
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,359
whole like reptilian thing

1216
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:57,520
so what have you found is it the

1217
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:58,559
reptilians or

1218
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:01,839
some half man half reptile

1219
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:04,559
fishy looking scaly people that are

1220
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,880
trying to rule the earth

1221
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,880
well that's a good question and frankly

1222
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,319
i'll be honest with you i mean i can't

1223
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,319
give you a definitive answer because

1224
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,559
i'm not sure anybody knows i think that

1225
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,240
may even be one of the reasons why the

1226
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:18,160
whole topic of extraterrestrials and

1227
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,960
aliens

1228
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:21,680
is relegated off to entertainment movies

1229
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,400
tv

1230
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,960
science fiction and they will not deal

1231
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:26,960
on it on a

1232
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,079
geopolitical reality basis

1233
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:32,160
and that's because even the et's

1234
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,280
themselves

1235
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:35,440
may not be certain of who's who and

1236
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:36,480
what's what

1237
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:39,520
because apparently they have the

1238
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:40,720
technology

1239
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,079
to mask themselves okay and to maybe

1240
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,480
look like other things

1241
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:49,680
to appear uh for example

1242
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:53,359
uh in their craft ufos uh

1243
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,640
all around the world you go all the way

1244
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:56,400
back and some of them see them seem to

1245
00:49:03,910 --> 00:48:56,640
be

1246
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,920
different and uh

1247
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,160
of course going back to the 50s we had

1248
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:08,400
flying saucers these little round things

1249
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:09,280
this is

1250
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:12,400
little uh saucer shaped things and now

1251
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,520
today

1252
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,400
we have the triangular shaped craft and

1253
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:18,319
it could be that they are masking

1254
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,359
themselves

1255
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:21,760
as something vaguely familiar because

1256
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:22,480
now

1257
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:26,160
our own air force is flying triangular

1258
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:29,680
winged aircraft and so they have always

1259
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,480
uh

1260
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,960
shielded themselves and and or put forth

1261
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,920
an image

1262
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,920
that was something that was would not

1263
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,559
have totally disturbed the people

1264
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:40,480
of the time it was something that they

1265
00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:41,680
could understand

1266
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,839
um i i give you a little story that

1267
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,280
maybe illustrates uh

1268
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:47,520
what i'm talking about when i was

1269
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:48,640
researching the

1270
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,359
aurora spaceship crash here in texas i

1271
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,040
was going back through the microfilm of

1272
00:49:58,829 --> 00:49:55,119
the old dallas fort worth newspapers

1273
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:58,839
and i found this great story about from

1274
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:03,119
1897 of a railroad track inspector who

1275
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:03,440
was

1276
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,640
inspecting track north of fort worth

1277
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,400
and it got to be kind of late evening he

1278
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:10,160
said he better turn back and head back

1279
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,280
for town

1280
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,119
but he noticed a big bright light up

1281
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,280
ahead so he went to investigate and he

1282
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,359
found a cigar-shaped object

1283
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:19,680
sitting on the tracks and he said there

1284
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:20,640
was

1285
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,160
a group of people around there dressed

1286
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:23,839
in blue uniforms

1287
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,079
and he did may in the news story in his

1288
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:29,200
account he never made any particular

1289
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,520
comment as to what they look like you

1290
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,280
know so apparently they looked

1291
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:35,200
reasonably human to him

1292
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:38,160
and uh he said their commander came and

1293
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:39,280
talked with him

1294
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:42,079
and told him not to say anything about

1295
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:43,680
seeing them because they were on a

1296
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,240
secret

1297
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,440
mission to bomb havana

1298
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:50,160
well to me this is really interesting

1299
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,520
because this was in the spring of 1897

1300
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,400
and the spanish-american war which

1301
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,760
resulted in of course

1302
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,720
teddy roosevelt's charming san juan hill

1303
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,400
and cuba

1304
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:04,720
and because the battleship maine blew up

1305
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,119
in havana harbor we went to war and were

1306
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:09,200
fighting in cuba

1307
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,079
that didn't happen for another year so

1308
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:13,920
in other words apparently they've got

1309
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:17,680
time travel capability and

1310
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,200
they can make themselves appear so that

1311
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,440
nobody knows exactly uh who they are and

1312
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:25,359
that may be part of the reason for the

1313
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,559
secrecy

1314
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:28,800
because two things uh even some of the

1315
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,559
e.t races may not be able to

1316
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:32,960
differentiate between

1317
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:35,599
another race or the humans or whoever

1318
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:36,400
else

1319
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:39,760
and two if it ever got known accepted

1320
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:42,319
that we've got aliens among us who look

1321
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:43,440
like us

1322
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,480
uh can you imagine the hysteria

1323
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:49,599
that would make that would make mccarthy

1324
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,880
witch hunt area

1325
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:53,040
era you know just look like a sunny

1326
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:54,720
school picnic

1327
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,440
but i think you said a very operative

1328
00:52:02,470 --> 00:51:58,800
word you said

1329
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,480
races right ray

1330
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:05,359
so do you think there are multiple races

1331
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:06,319
that are coming here

1332
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:09,040
and and bugging us and and actually i'm

1333
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:10,480
going to make this a two-parter

1334
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,079
and do you think they're all fighting

1335
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:13,920
for control or do you think there's some

1336
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,880
group that has

1337
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:16,839
control and then there are these other

1338
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:18,800
guys um

1339
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:21,839
i think there are races uh the the

1340
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:23,839
number varies on whoever you want to

1341
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:24,480
talk to

1342
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:28,000
some say it's as low as maybe eight or

1343
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:29,359
ten some say as high as

1344
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:32,559
50 or 80. uh you know

1345
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:36,000
and i think that there is a uh

1346
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:39,839
a subrosa conflict going on over who has

1347
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,079
jurisdiction here some of these folks

1348
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:44,400
for example the annunaki that the

1349
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,280
sumerians write about who came here and

1350
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:49,599
according to these ancient tablets

1351
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:52,960
uh um altered our dna

1352
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,319
and created modern man

1353
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,160
that's just why they've not been able to

1354
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,160
find the missing link because we went

1355
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:01,920
right from neanderthal

1356
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:04,960
to modern man

1357
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:14,549
you have to wonder you know what

1358
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,000
what the what they're really up to and

1359
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,920
why they're doing all this and i think

1360
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,280
that they're even are

1361
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:22,960
not fighting physically but i think

1362
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,800
there's conflict

1363
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,720
uh the people who were here first said

1364
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,400
well we were here first

1365
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,200
and we help we help create these modern

1366
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,200
humans and so we have a

1367
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,240
propriety proprietorship on it

1368
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,960
uh and then others may have arrived and

1369
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,200
said well yeah but we want here too

1370
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:42,960
and plus there may have been even

1371
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:44,800
multiple races

1372
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:46,960
uh interacting with the earth even way

1373
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,079
back

1374
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:51,359
hundreds of thousands of years ago but i

1375
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:53,920
think the one common denominator

1376
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:57,760
is what they describe in the star trek

1377
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,880
series as the prime directive now

1378
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:01,920
whether this is an

1379
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:04,960
absolute law with enforcement powers i'm

1380
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,599
not

1381
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:08,319
clear on i would tend to think it's more

1382
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:09,200
like just an

1383
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:11,599
understood an understanding among the

1384
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:13,760
intelligent advanced races

1385
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:16,880
of the universe which is that it is not

1386
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:20,559
proper to overtly

1387
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:23,119
interfere with the natural evolution of

1388
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:24,559
a species

1389
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,800
so i think that they're constrained to

1390
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:28,480
try to either help us or hurt us

1391
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:29,680
whatever their

1392
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:32,079
agenda may be but they have to do it

1393
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,119
covertly

1394
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:36,000
they have to do it secretly and this is

1395
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,400
why

1396
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:38,079
there seems to be things going on that

1397
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,680
we don't quite understand

1398
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,440
because we don't understand the true

1399
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:42,960
motives and the true

1400
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,240
uh agendas behind some of this activity

1401
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:48,799
earlier you were talking about religion

1402
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:49,680
and

1403
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:51,760
the priesthood controlling every

1404
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,720
everything

1405
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:55,119
but i've also heard stories that control

1406
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,520
the planet was based on bloodlines

1407
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:59,520
and if you think of like the line of

1408
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:02,000
royalty or the line of

1409
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,720
you know the priesthood in general um

1410
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:08,559
do you think that do you think that you

1411
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:09,760
know control

1412
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,319
was based on that same kind of thing

1413
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:14,400
bloodlines in the past and do you still

1414
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,280
think that

1415
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,960
there is still a connection with the

1416
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:18,559
world leaders today

1417
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,520
uh based on bloodline you know what

1418
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:23,280
makes me think of though is like

1419
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,319
you know in egypt the pharaoh you know

1420
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:28,559
the king would marry his sister

1421
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:30,480
or there was there was always this

1422
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,309
okay because and i detail this my book

1423
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:41,839
our cultured history

1424
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:45,119
uh they have found that uh if uh

1425
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:48,559
say the pharaoh uh had a chromosome of x

1426
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:51,920
y and he married uh uh

1427
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:55,520
a wife and now you got uh

1428
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,640
xx and yy and then uh

1429
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:01,200
you know you go on from there but if he

1430
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:02,480
then uh

1431
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:05,280
marries if the next pharaoh marries his

1432
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,000
sister

1433
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,079
you're gonna come out with another xx

1434
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:10,559
chromosome and you have duplicated the

1435
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:11,839
original pharaoh

1436
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,599
and that's how you keep the bloodline

1437
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:15,200
pure

1438
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,400
and yes you're right uh now we're not

1439
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,839
talking about me because i don't care

1440
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:20,880
about your bloodline

1441
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:23,280
i don't care who your daddy was okay i

1442
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,079
just want to know

1443
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:26,240
you're a good person and you trustworthy

1444
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:27,440
and you know

1445
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:28,880
if you are then i want you to be my

1446
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:31,680
friend but

1447
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:34,559
as you mentioned the pharaohs the

1448
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,440
caesars

1449
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,839
the royalty of europe even the nazis

1450
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,960
they're all

1451
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:41,760
concerned with the bloodline and in fact

1452
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:42,319
of the

1453
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:45,760
42 presidents up to bill clinton 33

1454
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,240
were related to only two people alfred

1455
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,240
the great king of england and sherman

1456
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:53,280
king of france and so on it goes

1457
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,359
now i knew in 2000

1458
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:00,480
the george w bush was going to become

1459
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,880
president how'd i know that well because

1460
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:04,400
in the mainstream media

1461
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:07,119
there was a story from burke's peerage a

1462
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,240
very prestigious

1463
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,280
genealogical publication in england that

1464
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:12,720
predicted george w

1465
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,200
bush would gain the presidency over al

1466
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:16,880
gore because

1467
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:20,000
although both bush and gore

1468
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:22,640
were blood relatives to the windsors the

1469
00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:25,119
ruling family of england

1470
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:28,799
the bushes were more closely related

1471
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:32,000
in royal genes and chromosomes and they

1472
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:32,799
said

1473
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:35,839
so he would get it and sure enough uh as

1474
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,799
we now know

1475
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,280
gore actually won the election but the

1476
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:41,200
county in florida was stopped

1477
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:42,799
and the supreme court handed the

1478
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:44,240
presidency to

1479
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:47,440
george w bush now i'm sure a lot of

1480
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,799
people may be thinking well

1481
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:50,880
my goodness at least we broke that chain

1482
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:53,200
because now we've got barack hussein

1483
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,000
obama

1484
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,920
and he certainly can't be of that

1485
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:57,520
bloodline but oops

1486
00:58:01,030 --> 00:58:00,480
ah contraire according to dick cheney's

1487
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,040
wife

1488
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,920
lynn she was researching for a book on

1489
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,440
their family history

1490
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:07,520
and she finds out that barack hussein

1491
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,480
obama

1492
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:10,640
is an eighth cousin to former vice

1493
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:11,520
president

1494
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,640
dick cheney and because obama is a

1495
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:16,960
descendant of maureen duvall a french

1496
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,839
huguenot

1497
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,599
whose son married the granddaughter of a

1498
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:21,520
richard cheney who had arrived in

1499
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,000
maryland

1500
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:25,119
in the late 1650s from england okay now

1501
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,520
i've

1502
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,760
heard the argument i understand this

1503
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:29,599
that you know if you go far enough back

1504
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:31,440
you could say well we're all related

1505
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,880
i'm a relation to you dr tina because

1506
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,280
we're all related to adam but if you go

1507
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,680
far enough back but this is in the 1650s

1508
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:40,559
this is only

1509
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,799
uh you know uh two three hundred years

1510
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:44,559
ago and one of the odds

1511
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:47,920
that those people all seem to end up as

1512
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,599
the national leaders all right 33 out of

1513
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:53,599
the last 42 presidents

1514
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:55,040
and if you don't think that's strange

1515
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,799
enough then grab this according to the

1516
00:59:01,990 --> 00:58:58,720
chicago sometimes

1517
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,000
a study they did that obama and cheney

1518
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:04,559
or both blood relations to the bush

1519
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:05,599
family

1520
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:08,799
uh and they are linked through

1521
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,599
a 17th century massachusetts couple

1522
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:13,520
sarah hinckley

1523
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:16,720
samuel hinckley and hinckley is a

1524
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:20,000
relative of john warnock hinckley

1525
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:23,440
senior one of george herbert walker

1526
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:24,240
bush's

1527
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,760
oil friends whose son john warnock

1528
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,119
hinckley jr

1529
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,839
was the man who shot president reagan in

1530
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:33,040
1981.

1531
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,640
now where do you think the odds of that

1532
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:36,559
are

1533
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:39,680
like a million to one maybe probably

1534
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:40,799
more

1535
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:43,520
so yes it's all in the bloodline but let

1536
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:44,240
me ask you

1537
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:47,040
i mean i could see where like the bushes

1538
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:47,839
or whatever

1539
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:50,720
would be connected to like the british

1540
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:51,839
bloodline

1541
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,760
but does this also bring in you know

1542
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:55,839
like the nazis and

1543
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:57,839
you know some of these other groups that

1544
01:00:01,109 --> 01:00:00,400
we often hear and kind of you know the

1545
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,119
russian

1546
01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:03,280
leadership i mean do they all kind of

1547
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:05,880
fall into this same

1548
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:09,920
hodgepodge of intermarrying families

1549
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,359
oh yeah because like the windsors

1550
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,599
that's not their real name windsor was

1551
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:17,599
the name of a castle they had

1552
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:20,480
and their real name was uh well it used

1553
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:21,119
to be

1554
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:23,520
mount button uh and that was changed

1555
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:24,960
during world war one

1556
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:27,599
to from bottenburg because they were

1557
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:28,559
germans

1558
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:31,119
okay they all came from germany uh king

1559
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:32,160
george

1560
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,599
you might remember you know couldn't

1561
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:35,520
even speak english uh

1562
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,079
so uh then you go back to germany and

1563
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,079
you track it on back and you find that

1564
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:42,480
it's all connected and then you go back

1565
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:43,200
all the way

1566
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:46,480
into the uh roman times

1567
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,920
and you find that they were all

1568
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:49,839
connected with uh

1569
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:53,040
the ancient legends and stuff uh

1570
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:56,160
the famous general roman general sula

1571
01:01:01,910 --> 01:00:58,799
founded a college in rome dedicated to

1572
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:01,920
the egyptian goddess eyed isis

1573
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:05,119
and then julius caesar famous

1574
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:08,319
roman leader claimed that he was

1575
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:11,359
a descendant of the god prince aeneas

1576
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:14,240
the father of romulus and remus who was

1577
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,079
said to have been a hybrid

1578
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,200
between a human and the goddess venus

1579
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:21,599
known to the known as hathar to the

1580
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:22,480
egyptians

1581
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,920
and azeroth to the sumerians

1582
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,400
and so we see this connection that goes

1583
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:30,880
back through the romans and the greeks

1584
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,000
back to the sumerian deities and

1585
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,760
and who were they well the sumerians

1586
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:37,920
wrote it all down on their clay tablets

1587
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,520
bake them turn them to stone

1588
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:41,520
and they still exist and when they're

1589
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:43,920
translated we find out that

1590
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:46,160
they are the descendants of the anunnaki

1591
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:48,079
who came from space and landed on the

1592
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,910
that just to me is is just kind of

1593
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:54,960
mind-blowing

1594
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:58,079
i guess the part that just okay there

1595
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:00,559
are the connections that are going on

1596
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,599
but how do they transmit

1597
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:05,520
the secret knowledge like in the

1598
01:02:11,029 --> 01:02:08,799
priesthood or in these secret societies

1599
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:11,039
you know of the days of old you know you

1600
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:12,960
had to be initiated and then you had to

1601
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:15,680
become like an apprentice of

1602
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:18,160
that organization and then eventually

1603
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:18,960
you could become

1604
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,160
part of that today it doesn't seem like

1605
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,559
we have that same kind of connection or

1606
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:27,280
that same requirement to

1607
01:02:32,549 --> 01:02:30,319
go through initiation so

1608
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,559
how does that secret knowledge or

1609
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:34,480
whatever move forward how do they

1610
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:35,280
connect

1611
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:38,640
all right how do the et's

1612
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:42,640
control through them to exert their

1613
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:45,359
agenda on us okay that's a better

1614
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:46,400
question

1615
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,160
well your operative word there was

1616
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:50,640
control do they control

1617
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,839
uh since uh we assume that they were

1618
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:55,280
telling us the truth and there were

1619
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:55,839
these

1620
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,079
in the distant past and that

1621
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,000
we can trace them right on up to the

1622
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,720
bloodlines until today

1623
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:06,960
uh and there's obviously this group of

1624
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:09,520
people trying to control the world today

1625
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,760
that leads in my mind to three

1626
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:13,200
possibilities

1627
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:16,400
one they uh these uh

1628
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:19,119
the illuminati the one percent the new

1629
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:20,640
world order people

1630
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:23,839
they are uh trying to contact

1631
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:27,039
these ancient creator gods okay

1632
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,200
or two uh they are in contact with them

1633
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,839
and are being controlled or maybe just

1634
01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:35,440
advised

1635
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:38,559
by by them or three they

1636
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:41,839
are them and if

1637
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:44,880
you clarify that last statement yeah

1638
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:47,520
they are the they are the annunaki for

1639
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:49,599
one thing and when i was in egypt uh

1640
01:03:54,069 --> 01:03:52,880
i remember going to um i think it was

1641
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:54,079
cities temple

1642
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:57,280
and they had a huge wall that were

1643
01:04:01,750 --> 01:03:58,960
listing all of the

1644
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:01,760
kingships going all the way back even

1645
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:02,880
beyond

1646
01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:04,799
uh ancient egypt and it went back for

1647
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,280
like 43 000 years or more

1648
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:09,520
and some of these kings that they were

1649
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:10,480
recording

1650
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:13,599
ruled for ten thousand twenty thousand

1651
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:16,240
years and then of course we know from

1652
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:18,240
the bible that methuselah lived eight

1653
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:20,000
hundred nine hundred years

1654
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,599
and that uh some of these people were

1655
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:23,599
living a thousand years

1656
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:26,160
now that seems pretty impossible and

1657
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,760
far-fetched to us

1658
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:30,160
but then we saw that this this age

1659
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,000
continued to drop

1660
01:04:35,270 --> 01:04:34,640
uh whether through design or because of

1661
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,280
the

1662
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:37,440
maybe a thicker atmosphere and different

1663
01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:38,960
conditions on the earth well

1664
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,960
they were eating white bread eating

1665
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,039
white bread i figured that out they've

1666
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:44,960
been eating white bread

1667
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,440
it very well could be but it the age

1668
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,200
continued to drop until it

1669
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:50,960
got really low during the middle ages

1670
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:52,720
when there wasn't any nutrition and

1671
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,799
got down to you know what 34 or

1672
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:55,839
something was all day

1673
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:58,400
that's all they ate was white bread i

1674
01:05:01,510 --> 01:04:59,440
think i went to some

1675
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,520
gym that's right they should have grown

1676
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:02,880
some wheat bread

1677
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:05,200
so but today now because of modern

1678
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:07,200
technology medicine better diet now

1679
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:08,240
we're back up to

1680
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:11,760
you know 70 80 years old or more uh

1681
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:14,960
so um how would they control people

1682
01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:15,680
today

1683
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:18,160
let's take somebody like bill gates okay

1684
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:18,720
who

1685
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:22,319
this computer nerd

1686
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:24,559
who had a great idea for an operating

1687
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:25,359
system

1688
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,839
and uh became pretty much cornered the

1689
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:28,559
market

1690
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,079
on computers and became one of the

1691
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:32,079
richest men in the whole world

1692
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:34,799
okay now how would you get him to come

1693
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:35,359
in

1694
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:39,039
to your little ancient alien group

1695
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:41,599
and cooperate with what you're trying to

1696
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:42,559
do and he

1697
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,960
is cooperating because if you think

1698
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,640
about it he's all over the place

1699
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,319
telling everybody they need to get their

1700
01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:50,799
vaccinations in their inoculations

1701
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:52,880
you know for the good of the world okay

1702
01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:53,839
what he doesn't tell you

1703
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:56,640
is is that because their agenda is

1704
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:58,240
population reduction

1705
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,160
and if you take some of the additives

1706
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:02,240
and the squalene and the stuff they're

1707
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:03,280
putting in the

1708
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:05,839
uh vaccinations that your immunization

1709
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:07,280
system is going to break down

1710
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:08,720
quicker you're probably going to die

1711
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,720
earlier so you know we don't

1712
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:12,799
quite know that but if that's the case

1713
01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:14,400
how would they get him to go along with

1714
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:15,440
something like that

1715
01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:17,520
he's got all the money in the world well

1716
01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:19,039
what if they told him look

1717
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,440
number one this is necessary because if

1718
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:23,119
we don't cut the population

1719
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,640
uh you know we're going to overburden

1720
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:26,400
the world and the world will come to an

1721
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:27,680
end and you don't want that on your

1722
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:28,319
conscience

1723
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:32,000
and number two if you'll help us we will

1724
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,119
give you use of our technology and you

1725
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:37,920
can go illness free for the rest of your

1726
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,319
life

1727
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:40,079
and probably live to be a couple of

1728
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,480
hundred years old if you want to

1729
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:44,400
and he might say well yeah but and

1730
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:46,000
people gonna notice

1731
01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:48,079
no because once you get to the level of

1732
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:50,720
the bushes and the gates and the people

1733
01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:52,720
they don't they don't live the same type

1734
01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:54,079
life that we do

1735
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,400
i recall uh when george herbert walker

1736
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:57,839
bush was president

1737
01:07:02,069 --> 01:07:00,960
they took him to a supermarket for a

1738
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:02,079
photo op

1739
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,880
and when the checker was running the

1740
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:08,960
produce and the products across the

1741
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,039
scanner and it was going deep

1742
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,599
deep deep you know and he said what's

1743
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:14,720
that noise

1744
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:16,240
he didn't understand it because he had

1745
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:18,400
never had to go shop in a grocery store

1746
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:19,920
he always had somebody come and serve

1747
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:21,760
him dinner and

1748
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:23,920
that same deal they just don't live the

1749
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,880
same life

1750
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:26,640
and so they have their own private

1751
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:29,200
doctors and so it's very easy

1752
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:31,200
especially if they have this masking

1753
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:32,640
technology

1754
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,240
and plus they have control over the

1755
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,160
government we know the government has a

1756
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:38,160
federal witness protection program

1757
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,000
where they can just give you a whole new

1758
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:42,000
identity and all you'd have to do

1759
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:45,280
to disappear uh dr louise is head off to

1760
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:45,839
the

1761
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,520
northwest or somewhere where you don't

1762
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,960
normally hang out

1763
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:51,520
uh maybe put on some glasses and dye

1764
01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:52,480
your hair

1765
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:54,079
and then you've got a whole new identity

1766
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:55,599
given to you by the federal government

1767
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:56,640
which is not a

1768
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:59,839
fake identity you you've got a driver's

1769
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,880
license and a

1770
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:03,119
social security card and and all of this

1771
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:03,920
stuff and

1772
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:06,000
a computer background and it's all

1773
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:07,760
legitimate because they've given it

1774
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:09,039
their

1775
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:12,559
seal of approval and uh you just so

1776
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,520
you know it gets to be you get to be

1777
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,359
almost 100 years old you simply

1778
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:18,880
announced to the world that

1779
01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:21,120
you died and then you just keep going

1780
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,040
under another identity

1781
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:25,199
now that sounds far-fetched but you know

1782
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:27,279
it but the technology's all there

1783
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,040
there's no reason why that can't happen

1784
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,199
but it seems like it's it's happening

1785
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:35,040
but what do you think about the idea of

1786
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:37,279
them taking the population down to

1787
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:40,000
500 000 people i mean that just seems

1788
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:40,400
like

1789
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:43,679
not enough people well as long as as

1790
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:44,400
long as i'm

1791
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:46,640
included in that that might be a great

1792
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:52,709
the problem is i can't guarantee that

1793
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:54,400
i'm going to be part of it so

1794
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:56,400
uh if i'm not then i don't want any part

1795
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:57,600
of that plan

1796
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:59,520
uh besides that this whole thing about

1797
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:00,880
overpopulation

1798
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:04,080
uh is blown out of proportion anyway

1799
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,920
uh people who live in the cities you

1800
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,839
know every day there's this elbow to

1801
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:09,279
elbow with somebody

1802
01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:11,440
and all night there's noises and sirens

1803
01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:13,600
and people walking up downstairs and

1804
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,159
you know it's like whoa surely we could

1805
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,920
do without some of these people

1806
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,359
especially if they have to drive on the

1807
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:21,120
freeways but

1808
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,279
if you go out and travel around the

1809
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,839
country just go drive through west texas

1810
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,319
holy cow you drive all day long and

1811
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:29,600
hardly see anybody

1812
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,080
you know uh in fact here are the facts

1813
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:36,640
in hong kong today which is jammed up in

1814
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:38,480
those high-rises

1815
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:42,400
there over in asia the average

1816
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,600
living space is 1700 square feet

1817
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,239
hey a 1700 square foot apartment that's

1818
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:50,239
not a bad apartment that's a pretty good

1819
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:51,520
sized apartment

1820
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:54,480
and so based on 1700 square feet of

1821
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:55,600
living space

1822
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,600
uh everybody the whole population in the

1823
01:10:02,790 --> 01:09:59,840
world 6.5 billion

1824
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,800
could live comfortably enough in the

1825
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:04,719
state of texas

1826
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:07,040
with nobody else anywhere in the world

1827
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,480
of course now i don't want that

1828
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:10,320
please don't come to texas we got enough

1829
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,600
people here now

1830
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:13,679
yeah but what about all the parking lots

1831
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,520
but we have to like well that's because

1832
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,880
yeah that's because everybody wants

1833
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:17,840
their car

1834
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:20,239
what if you didn't need a car what if

1835
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,239
you could get on a public bicycle that's

1836
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:24,080
just lying around anywhere you just walk

1837
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:25,520
out the door and go find one lean up

1838
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:26,800
against the post somewhere

1839
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:29,600
and you paddle it down to the uh to the

1840
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:31,440
high-speed rail system

1841
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:34,080
and which will carry you to the uh

1842
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:36,159
commercial district or the entertainment

1843
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:38,159
district or whatever you wander around

1844
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,159
go to the restaurants of your choice

1845
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:42,000
go to the stores that you want to go be

1846
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:44,000
like a huge big shopping mall

1847
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,080
and then you ride the rails back out to

1848
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,840
the suburbs you get on your bicycle you

1849
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,120
go to your house

1850
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:51,360
the air is clean there's no pollution it

1851
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:53,600
could happen we have the technology

1852
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:56,159
it's just that that might interfere with

1853
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:57,280
these folks

1854
01:11:01,990 --> 01:11:00,719
monopolies where they get their money

1855
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:02,000
and hence their power

1856
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,679
it just makes me laugh you know during

1857
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:05,360
the break we were talking about

1858
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:07,840
summers in texas and i'm thinking okay

1859
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:09,760
jim i want to see you get on the bike in

1860
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,679
the middle of august and just pedal on

1861
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,640
down to the train station

1862
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,239
well yeah but let me tell you something

1863
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:18,560
there's a uh there's a place here

1864
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:21,600
uh and between dallas and fort worth

1865
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:24,400
um i can't tell you the name of it right

1866
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:25,760
now got a block

1867
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:29,199
but uh it's like a huge hotel

1868
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:32,560
conference center mall and it's all

1869
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:36,800
under a giant dome and uh

1870
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:38,080
during the break joe was talking about

1871
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:39,840
going to san antonio and i in san

1872
01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:41,920
antonio they have a river walk

1873
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:44,480
which is along the river there uh it's

1874
01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:45,520
just beautiful

1875
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,679
you know well they've got a river walk

1876
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,440
uh at this place

1877
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:50,960
and it's under a big dome and it's

1878
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:53,679
air-conditioned so it could all work

1879
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:56,000
we have the technology we have the

1880
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,120
technology that

1881
01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:59,520
in fact here's the biggest conspiracy

1882
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:01,600
going on today

1883
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:04,159
we have the technology off the shelf

1884
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,760
ready to go

1885
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:07,679
that could turn this whole world into a

1886
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:10,080
paradise there's no reason that we

1887
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:11,760
shouldn't be able to provide every

1888
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:13,199
single human being

1889
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:16,719
on this planet with decent housing

1890
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:20,640
and food clothing and and basic medical

1891
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:24,239
care okay and but yet as we're talking

1892
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:25,280
right now

1893
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,120
we know in the back of our mind we try

1894
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,280
to shut this out but we know

1895
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:31,679
there are literally millions of kids

1896
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:32,560
children

1897
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,840
starving to death around the world right

1898
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:36,400
now

1899
01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:39,440
either but

1900
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:40,960
why is it that way well it's that way

1901
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:42,480
because i guarantee you somewhere

1902
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:43,120
somebody

1903
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:45,920
wants it that way if nobody wanted it

1904
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:47,920
that way it wouldn't be that way

1905
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:50,000
so we are being kept down we've been

1906
01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:53,440
kept down as a slave race

1907
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:56,000
and it used to be with the literal

1908
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,440
chains and whips

1909
01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:59,760
but now they've gotten smarter today

1910
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:00,640
it's with

1911
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:04,320
economics and religion but the part i

1912
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,040
don't get

1913
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:07,520
is you know you hear the talk about the

1914
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:10,960
gmos and the chemtrails and vaccines

1915
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:13,040
i mean if you're one of the one percent

1916
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:14,560
okay you don't have to

1917
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:17,760
do the vaccine then you probably for a

1918
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:19,199
certain amount of time

1919
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,000
can get around the gmos but i think my

1920
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:24,159
feeling is is that the gmos are gonna

1921
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:25,440
become

1922
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:28,880
just part of our food and we're gonna

1923
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:31,120
we're gonna screw ourselves over but the

1924
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,239
chemtrails

1925
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:34,480
it's like okay you know don't you have

1926
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,000
to breathe the same air

1927
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:37,520
or are you just like running around like

1928
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:39,760
michael jackson with the gas mask on all

1929
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:40,320
the time

1930
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:42,480
i i don't understand why they're doing

1931
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:44,239
some of the things they're doing

1932
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:45,920
well what they're doing with the

1933
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:47,840
chemtrails and the vaccinations and the

1934
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:49,120
pollution and the

1935
01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:51,840
gmos and the bad food and water and the

1936
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:53,679
fluoride in the water and

1937
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,640
everything else is is that they are uh

1938
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:58,400
basically killing us but

1939
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,199
not in an overt way uh if people were

1940
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,960
just dropping like flies there'd be a

1941
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,159
huge outcry

1942
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:06,880
and there'd be a huge rebellion but as

1943
01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:08,560
long as everybody's fat and sassy and

1944
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,880
they got their beer and they got this tv

1945
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:12,320
and they got their nascar and their

1946
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,080
football games and you know

1947
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,800
bridge and whatever and they can keep

1948
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:18,480
themselves occupied on

1949
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:21,520
on the social networks and they got food

1950
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,080
to eat

1951
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:24,080
then they're just going to grow obese

1952
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:25,520
and they're going to breathe

1953
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,920
the chemtrail air and then they're just

1954
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:29,120
going to die of cancer

1955
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:30,880
or something a lot sooner than they

1956
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:32,560
would have naturally

1957
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:34,719
okay so it's a way of killing off the

1958
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:35,679
population

1959
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,120
they're doing to them

1960
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,520
now it's a very good question as to well

1961
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:44,000
aren't they impacted with this too

1962
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,600
right they bring the claim there don't

1963
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:47,360
they eat the same food

1964
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,800
okay number one maybe not maybe they got

1965
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,840
ways around it

1966
01:14:57,189 --> 01:14:54,560
but even if they don't i would submit

1967
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,199
they have the technology to overcome it

1968
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,120
i don't know how familiar you are with

1969
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:01,440
the work of royal raymond rife

1970
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:04,480
but you know there is the rife equipment

1971
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:07,760
that can uh overcome diseases

1972
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:10,080
and overcome certain conditions and it

1973
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,199
may be that

1974
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,679
since the chemtrails are made up mostly

1975
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:14,880
of heavy metals

1976
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:18,880
that certain therapies like chelation

1977
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,080
and or the rife type equipment

1978
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:24,800
can counterbalance that and again if you

1979
01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:26,239
play ball with them

1980
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,000
then they'll give you access to their

1981
01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:30,719
technology and you can live a long happy

1982
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,239
prosperous life

1983
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,000
well i'm just trying to think you know

1984
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,080
in the back of my mind i'm going okay so

1985
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:38,159
can you think of any like important

1986
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:39,920
people that are living long lives

1987
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,760
i mean you know ones that don't have

1988
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:43,840
mysterious car accidents or

1989
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:45,520
commit suicide with three bullets in the

1990
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:48,159
back of their head and and those kind of

1991
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:51,360
uh but harry kissinger how old is he

1992
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,640
didn't he 90 something i don't know

1993
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:55,920
you know i have the first question i

1994
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:03,750
oh boy is he still attends those uh

1995
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,159
bilderberg meetings well that's true and

1996
01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:08,239
queen elizabeth i mean she's still

1997
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:11,360
kicking right and

1998
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:15,840
uh who was the basketball star

1999
01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:17,840
that at one point they announced had

2000
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:20,239
aids they

2001
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:22,880
johnson yeah magic johnson and i'm

2002
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:24,880
thinking oh poor guy he ain't gonna last

2003
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:27,040
long but hey he's still going

2004
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:33,510
well it'll be interesting to see how

2005
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:35,600
this all plays out i mean if we're

2006
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:40,640
all still alive yeah if we can survive

2007
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:43,679
well that you know this the good

2008
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,120
the good side the good news is that

2009
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:49,760
uh there's more of us than there are

2010
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,320
them

2011
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:52,560
and we're getting smarter all the time

2012
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:54,320
and there's more and more people waking

2013
01:16:58,189 --> 01:16:54,640
up

2014
01:17:02,550 --> 01:16:58,199
and refusing to go along with the uh

2015
01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:02,560
totalitarian orwellian uh society that

2016
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:04,159
they're trying to create so that they

2017
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:05,679
can keep control

2018
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:08,960
over every single individual um

2019
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:11,600
i see encouraging things all the time

2020
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:13,199
but we just got to get more and more

2021
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:14,480
people waked up

2022
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:16,880
and they've got to understand what's

2023
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:18,159
going on

2024
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:21,920
the oldest tactic in the world is divide

2025
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,239
and conquer and this is what we see

2026
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:26,880
happening in america right now today

2027
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:28,960
uh at the time of world war ii when we

2028
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,040
truly had foreign enemies

2029
01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:32,719
that really wanted to destroy the

2030
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:34,719
country we had the german nazis and we

2031
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:35,280
had the

2032
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,480
japanese and militarists

2033
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,480
who and they really they were all ready

2034
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:42,400
to invade they were ready to conquer

2035
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,440
america

2036
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:45,360
and so did we run around like chickens

2037
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,040
with their heads cut off and screaming

2038
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:49,520
oh terror is no terrorist oh no i'm so

2039
01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:50,560
afraid

2040
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:53,199
no uh the president roosevelt comes on

2041
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:55,840
the national radio the media and says

2042
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:58,000
the only thing that we have to fear is

2043
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,360
fear itself

2044
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:01,440
you know let's roll up her sleeve let's

2045
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:03,600
get things done take care of business

2046
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:06,239
and we did and then we just set back on

2047
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:07,120
our haunches

2048
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:09,920
and let the nazis take over okay because

2049
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:11,679
we beat the germans but we didn't beat

2050
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:12,880
the nazis

2051
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:15,679
and they were under the control of these

2052
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:16,080
uh

2053
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,800
same banking elites that had created

2054
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:20,320
communism in russia

2055
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:23,199
then created national socialism in

2056
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,159
germany

2057
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:26,719
and were bent on trying to control the

2058
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:27,440
world

2059
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,440
uh the reason they hadn't had that much

2060
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:31,600
success up until about the time of world

2061
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:31,920
war

2062
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:34,719
ii was simply because the technology

2063
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:35,920
wasn't there

2064
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:38,320
but today it is now they got drones

2065
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:39,840
they've got little

2066
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:42,400
little little drones the size and look

2067
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:44,159
of a mosquito that are actually little

2068
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,000
robots you could go around spying

2069
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,400
and send things back we got cameras all

2070
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:50,000
over the place you can't do anything

2071
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:51,040
without

2072
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:53,920
giving some kind of id you know it makes

2073
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,800
the old

2074
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,280
nazi thing about show me your papers

2075
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,520
pretty obsolete because now you just

2076
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,600
walk in a place you got electronic

2077
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,120
readers that can read the

2078
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:06,000
um credit cards in your wallet or purse

2079
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:07,520
okay they know who you are and where you

2080
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:08,719
are and what you're doing and of course

2081
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:10,080
we're helping them along because every

2082
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:11,280
time we go somewhere and

2083
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:13,600
we'll buy a pack of cigarettes we swipe

2084
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:14,320
a card

2085
01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:15,840
and they know right where you are how

2086
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,360
much money you got in the bank

2087
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:19,600
and what you buying and where you bought

2088
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:20,480
it yeah

2089
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,520
so and then we posted on facebook but

2090
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:25,520
then we posted on facebook

2091
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:28,640
yeah yeah yeah i'm wondering i wonder if

2092
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:29,280
anybody has

2093
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:30,719
ever got a letter from the national

2094
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,400
security agency saying

2095
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:34,320
thank you for your facebook page you

2096
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:36,159
saved us you know a hundred thousand

2097
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,040
dollars in

2098
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,920
snooping uh cost you know to find out

2099
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:41,600
about you

2100
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,840
i don't get it one of the things that i

2101
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:45,360
i feel

2102
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:48,640
is that the agenda whatever that

2103
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:51,600
is is just speeding up and the strong

2104
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:52,080
hand

2105
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:55,120
of control is coming down on us harder

2106
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:56,159
it seems like

2107
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:58,159
every week you hear them passing some

2108
01:20:03,430 --> 01:19:59,600
other law or

2109
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:03,440
you know gun control or some this or

2110
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,800
that

2111
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:06,560
what do you think is going on why do you

2112
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:08,960
think the the timeline

2113
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:11,360
that's the only word i can think of is

2114
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:13,280
really accelerated

2115
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:15,440
well because i think that they're on

2116
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:17,520
some kind of deadline

2117
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:20,719
i think something is coming up uh here's

2118
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:22,880
here's one possibility i'm not saying

2119
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,280
this is the case because i don't know

2120
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:27,280
but let's assume there was a worldwide

2121
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:30,480
civilization thousands of years ago

2122
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:33,840
and it fell into conflict and

2123
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:36,159
let's say there was a war or rebellion a

2124
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:37,360
war and maybe

2125
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:40,800
which either uh prompted or accompanied

2126
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,159
uh some geophysical uh catastrophes uh

2127
01:20:48,629 --> 01:20:46,560
you know earthquakes and volcanoes

2128
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:48,639
eruptions all kinds of things

2129
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:51,679
and that uh part of those people had

2130
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,440
the uh ability to leave the planet

2131
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,320
and they said uh we're leaving so they

2132
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,560
so the bulk of them left but they left

2133
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:02,400
behind some of the troublemakers the

2134
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,239
people who were trying to

2135
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:06,000
despoil the planet people who were

2136
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:07,280
trying to uh

2137
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:10,000
dominate the human race and they left it

2138
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:11,199
in their hands

2139
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:13,520
and now they are they're like uh

2140
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:15,280
charlene heston on the planet of the

2141
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:16,080
apes

2142
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:18,239
uh they're they know they're they're

2143
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:19,840
somewhat from somewhere else and they

2144
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:20,400
know

2145
01:21:24,070 --> 01:21:22,880
that there's better technology but they

2146
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:24,080
don't have it

2147
01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:26,880
okay if you and i went back in the time

2148
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:27,679
machine

2149
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:31,360
to oh let's just say 1860

2150
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:34,560
okay we know about automobiles we know

2151
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:35,600
how they work

2152
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:38,719
but could we build automobile no

2153
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:41,040
we couldn't even build a spark plug the

2154
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,080
infrastructure

2155
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,239
for creating that technology was not

2156
01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:46,400
there and it hasn't been

2157
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:49,520
in our recorded history so it's just now

2158
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:51,199
that these folks are getting

2159
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:53,679
uh and using and piggybacking our

2160
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,320
knowledge

2161
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:57,040
and our advancement in technology to get

2162
01:22:01,189 --> 01:21:58,400
to the point to where

2163
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:01,199
they can finally get to the control that

2164
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:02,400
they've been seeking

2165
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,760
all along so uh so but something's

2166
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,840
going on there's a deadline something's

2167
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:10,080
coming up and it may be

2168
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:13,280
that uh nibiru is coming back it may be

2169
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:14,800
that they know there's going to be some

2170
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:15,840
kind of a

2171
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:17,760
universal event that's going to cause

2172
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:19,360
problems that could be

2173
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,840
it could be that the the rest of the

2174
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:24,000
et's

2175
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:27,040
have sent cops back to restore order

2176
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,199
and they know they better get under this

2177
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:31,199
planted under good control if they want

2178
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:32,639
to maintain their

2179
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:36,480
their power and control over us

2180
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:39,520
and so they are now pushing as hard as

2181
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:40,480
they can

2182
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:43,199
uh to get control over the individuals

2183
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:44,880
and the biggest stumbling block that

2184
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:45,600
they have

2185
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:48,560
because most nations of the world are

2186
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:50,560
under pretty good control especially the

2187
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,560
third world nations there and they're

2188
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:54,400
all under an ant hill

2189
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,760
uh tyrannical society uh run by a king

2190
01:23:02,870 --> 01:22:59,440
or a warlord or a

2191
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:02,880
family you know but the biggest problem

2192
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:03,760
they have

2193
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:06,880
is the united states because we have

2194
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:10,639
a tradition of individual freedom and

2195
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:14,159
we have the legal basis the constitution

2196
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:15,440
the bill of rights

2197
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:18,840
for that individual freedom and we have

2198
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:21,280
guns so they're having a real problem

2199
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:21,840
with us

2200
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:24,239
but they've done a pretty good job over

2201
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:24,880
the past

2202
01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:28,000
40 50 years of dumbing us down

2203
01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:30,320
through a dumbed-down education system

2204
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:31,760
drugging us out

2205
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,280
and if you think we have any kind of

2206
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:35,199
problem with illegal drugs it's

2207
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,400
nothing compared to the legal drugs i've

2208
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:40,159
seen statistics

2209
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:42,639
as statistics show that probably more

2210
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,239
than 50 percent of people in this

2211
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:46,560
country are on some kind of drug

2212
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:48,960
all right now some of that's necessary

2213
01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:50,800
some of it's just to feel good some of

2214
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:52,560
us just to get through the day

2215
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:56,480
but uh it all affects how we think and

2216
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:57,760
how we act and

2217
01:24:01,990 --> 01:24:00,800
how we react and uh so they're working

2218
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:02,000
hard to bring us under

2219
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:06,159
control and uh we better start waking up

2220
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:08,480
well you know you mentioned all these

2221
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:10,639
people under drugs but if you talk to

2222
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,600
some people

2223
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:14,400
you know people take the drugs they

2224
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:16,560
urinate or whatever that goes through

2225
01:24:19,990 --> 01:24:18,880
water treatment plants but the drugs

2226
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:20,000
aren't filtered out

2227
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:22,239
necessarily and so we might be getting

2228
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:24,320
secondhand drugs

2229
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:27,280
how fun is that that's true that's very

2230
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,639
um

2231
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,960
so with all the information that is

2232
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:32,159
coming out

2233
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:34,320
you know and where but where it's mostly

2234
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:35,920
coming out is through people like

2235
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,560
yourself

2236
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,480
on the internet you know on shows like

2237
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:40,560
mine people writing books

2238
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:44,400
why don't we hear about any of this

2239
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:47,920
on the news well because it has now

2240
01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:49,280
devolved down to about

2241
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:51,679
five corporations multinational

2242
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:52,880
corporations

2243
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that control everything we see in here

2244
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:56,800
they control radio

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01:25:01,510 --> 01:25:00,639
tv satellite cable magazines newspapers

2246
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:01,520
billboards

2247
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:04,880
films you know cable

2248
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:07,520
you name it all in the control of just a

2249
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,120
handful of corporations

2250
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with interlocking directorship so again

2251
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,960
we're right back to

2252
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,960
the very same people that control the

2253
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:16,800
economy of the world control the

2254
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:20,000
mass media and this is by the way dr

2255
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:21,520
louise this is why

2256
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:24,800
that we rarely today hear

2257
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:28,080
any politician refer to the republic

2258
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,840
because we're not a republican anymore

2259
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:31,199
we're the empire

2260
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,199
and all they can talk about is democracy

2261
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:35,199
democracy got to bring democracy got to

2262
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:36,800
defend democracy

2263
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:39,199
what is democracy it's ruled by the

2264
01:25:43,510 --> 01:25:40,159
majority

2265
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,520
okay the classic example of uh of uh

2266
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:45,120
democracy in action

2267
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:47,920
is a lynch mob we don't want that that's

2268
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,760
not what we're given anyway we were

2269
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:51,760
given a democratic republic

2270
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,280
and what's the difference well in a

2271
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:55,440
democratic republic you have to give the

2272
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:56,880
accused

2273
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:59,679
a fair trial you have to let him face

2274
01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:01,040
his accusers

2275
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,719
you have to let him bring evidence

2276
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:06,960
in his defense he has the right to legal

2277
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:08,239
representation

2278
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:09,920
and he gets all of these checks and

2279
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:11,360
balances and then

2280
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:13,520
if he's found guilty maybe even gets an

2281
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:16,000
appeal then you can lynch him

2282
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:17,920
that's the difference but no see today

2283
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:19,440
it's democracy democracy

2284
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:22,000
because these people these folks this

2285
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:23,040
one percent

2286
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,600
these new world order people control the

2287
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:27,600
mass media and therefore they control

2288
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:29,040
the masses

2289
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:33,920
yeah i mean i do some thinking but wait

2290
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:36,880
we have fema camps so it's you know all

2291
01:26:41,110 --> 01:26:37,760
goes away

2292
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:41,120
just instantaneously no trial

2293
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:44,560
no accusations you just disappear

2294
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:47,760
oh it's it's worse than that uh this is

2295
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,520
going to sound like some kind of

2296
01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:51,600
rant but it's absolutely true every

2297
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:53,679
tuesday president obama gets to look

2298
01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:54,800
down his list of

2299
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:57,040
american citizens that he wants to

2300
01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:58,480
assassinate

2301
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:00,400
and decide which one of them he wants

2302
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:02,320
out of the way and he

2303
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,320
clicks on the intercom and they send a

2304
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:06,719
drone over and they blow somebody up

2305
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:08,159
and don't think that can't happen

2306
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,719
because it's already happened

2307
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,080
all right well i don't want him to not

2308
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:14,239
like me but jim our time is

2309
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,440
up and i i know we have more to talk

2310
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,520
about but we need to wrap for today

2311
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:21,120
so i just want to thank you for coming

2312
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:22,639
on and sharing your wisdom

2313
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:24,960
and oh if people want to get your book

2314
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,960
where where is the best place to go and

2315
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,639
do you have signed copies and all that

2316
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,080
juicy stuff

2317
01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:32,400
uh you can go and get my book our cult

2318
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:35,080
of history at my website oddly enough

2319
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:38,719
jimmares.com that's j-i-m-m-a-r-r-s

2320
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:42,159
dot-com or at any bookstore or of course

2321
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,880
amazon so yeah it's all out there

2322
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:48,480
okay so if they buy them from your

2323
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:50,719
website do they come signed

2324
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:55,600
um no not necessarily

2325
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,960
but uh but uh i'm uh you know i

2326
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,199
i made a presentation there to epic

2327
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:03,360
voyagers here not long back so

2328
01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:05,920
uh maybe you could sign up with uh epic

2329
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:07,040
voyagers and

2330
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,360
and uh maybe catch me at one of the

2331
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:11,120
meetings i'd be happy to sign something

2332
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,920
for you yeah

2333
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,440
let's just have they'll just have to get

2334
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:15,679
you up close and personal

2335
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,880
okay and he has videos

2336
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:20,880
so ken just sent me a message he has

2337
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:23,280
video so is that from granberry or

2338
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:26,960
from epic voyages ken yeah i think so

2339
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,480
yeah that's right in fact you know i

2340
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:30,239
looked on the webpage to see if there

2341
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:32,000
was some place it could be ordered but i

2342
01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:32,880
didn't see it

2343
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,639
so i guess if you would like to get here

2344
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:35,920
i'll say it this way

2345
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:38,400
if you'd like to get a copy of the video

2346
01:28:44,070 --> 01:28:40,480
of jim mars doing the presentation

2347
01:28:46,390 --> 01:28:44,080
at epic voyages contact epic voyages and

2348
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:46,400
they can send it to you um i don't have

2349
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:48,000
pricing information but i'm sure they'd

2350
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,440
be more than happy

2351
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,520
to let you know and it was a very good

2352
01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:52,800
presentation i'm sure

2353
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:55,199
everyone will like it that or the book

2354
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,960
or get both

2355
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:59,120
there you go see i'd want to get the

2356
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:00,960
book so i got a reference source and

2357
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:03,280
could go back to it all the time

2358
01:29:09,830 --> 01:29:07,280
right uh the web epic voyagers

2359
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,840
just type in epic in any search engine

2360
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:11,760
and you can find it and yes they will

2361
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:12,560
have

2362
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,080
copies of my talk all right

2363
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:18,880
thanks jim for coming on thank you dr

2364
01:29:22,709 --> 01:29:19,600
louise

2365
01:29:23,669 --> 01:29:22,719
we'll talk to you later okay great thank

2366
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:23,679
you

2367
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,520
19th

2368
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:29,520
in grapevine texas we'll have dennis

2369
01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:31,920
balthizer speaking at the epic voyages

2370
01:29:39,590 --> 01:29:36,159
uh lecture series

2371
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:39,600
check out epic voyagers on youtube.com

2372
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:42,960
and next week we have kevin cook uh

2373
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:47,199
co-hosting or hosting epic voyages radio

2374
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:50,400
so until next time i'm dr rita louise

2375
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:02,550
thank you for being with us tonight

2376
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:04,560
please join us again next monday evening

2377
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:06,080
for extraordinary phenomena

2378
01:30:18,830 --> 01:30:09,280
investigations councils epic voyages